Суд над Бхагавад-гитой / Attempt to ban Bhagavad-gita
Quoted post
Guest |
#12402011-12-18 00:18"I am sure Visvambhar Goswami is educated, and advanced in judgment and I am pleased he is not disturbed. But Dr. Kapoor can expose Purushottam Goswami about his deal with the late Puri Goswami of the Gaudiya Math. If the mystery of his acquiring 50,000 rupees of books from Puri is exposed then his so-called leadership will come to an end. He knows better than I and you can ask him about Purushottam Goswami's acquiring books from Puri-which is a mystery not yet disclosed, but every Gaudiya mission man knows the incident." (Gurudasa, 4/24/74) Note: Here it is very clear that Visvambhar Maharaja is taking the passive stance by advising not to expose Purushottam Goswami and thereby make waves. But Srila Prabhupada is not so sentimental. He is saying that is should be done anyway. Of course, he is saying it in very gentlemanly way so as to not offend Visvambhara's sentiments, which are not bad. But they are not as realized as Prabhupada's judgment on the matter, either. In other words, Prabhupada is saying that just because Visvambhar is not disturbed, that does not mean we also have to be undisturbed about this cheating. This is a very, very important letter. It reveals the practical mood of a real preacher. Similarly there are many "mysteries" surrounding these new "gurus" which we are not at all afraid to expose, just as Prabhupada was not afraid to expose Purushottam, Bon, Tirtha, or Sridhar, etc. To give one very graphic example, several devotees have testified that Kirtanananda told his women to "do the needful" in regards to Jadurani's getting her head kicked in and covered in blood in the 1980 incident (full story in Chapter Ten). Does anyone think Prabhupada would have like that action? Ironically, in 196768, when Kirtanananda was venomously attacking Prabhupada and actually deserved a beating, Prabhupada told the devotees, specifically Jadurani, "Do not have him beaten but defeat him with philosophy." When these two women who beat Jadurani first went to Kirtanananda to receive permission, he also could have told them to defeat her with philosophy. However, since neither these women nor Kirtanananda could actually defeat her, he had her beaten instead. He never apologized for this. In fact, afterwards,when asked about it, he said he was pleased by it. This is an example of very sinful violence and not violence used to curtail aggression. "Even they have changed her face, still it was not possible to hide the fact that she is old, like great grandmother. Because you are a devotee you could not tolerate the nonsense. You are a very good boy." (Gopal-Krsna, 11/28/74) Note: Again, a real devotee cannot tolerate nonsense going on in the name of religion. A sentimental devotee, pretending to be on the uttama-adhikari platforrn, will say: "Peace brother, live and let live. Let God handle it. It's all one. Become perfect yourself before casting the stone. Let them dig their own graves. Don't make waves. Let's just get high,etc." This is all sentimental weakness. Where is Gopal Krsna now that the face of ISKCON has so dramatically changed. He is one of the "gurus" doing the chiseling, that's where he is. "It is very good that the New York temple life is now much improved. What is very pleasing to me is that they have confronted the nonsense. They are sound devotees, otherwise they would have been carried away by this wrong propaganda." (Satsvarupa, 11/28/74) Note: This is such an important letter. It appears that almost all of ISKCON is carried away by the wrong propaganda, but so few are willing to "confront the nonsense." How can it be that everyone is so carried away? It is one thing to be a householder with job, wife, and children etc. and not come forward to fight against this conspiracy, but what about all the sannyasis who are supposed to be the powerful, celibate men preaching our philosophy? Are they all so eager to be appointed "gurus" in a future Mayapur meeting? Or do they all fit into the category described below? "Asvatthama was condemned by the Lord Himself, and he was treated by Arjuna just like a culprit, not like the son of a brahmana or teacher. But when he was brought before Srimati Draupadi, she, although begrieved for the murder of her sons, and although the murderer was present before her, could not withdraw the due respect generally offered to a brahmana or to the son of a brahmana. This is due to her mild nature as a woman... Asvatthama proved himself to be an unworthy son of Dronacharya or a brahmana, and for this reason he was condemned by the greatest authority, Lord Sri Krsna, and yet a mild woman could not withdraw her natural courtesy for a brahmana. "The specific words used in this sloka are vama-svabhava, "mild and gentle by nature." A good man or woman accepts anything very easily, but a man of average intelligence does not do so. But, anyway, we should not give up our reason and discriminatory power just to be gentle. One must have good discriminatory power to judge a thing on its merit. We should not follow the mild nature of a woman and thereby accept that which is not genuine. Asvatthama may be respected by a good-natured woman, but that does not mean that he is as good as a genuine brahmana." (SB, 1.7.42) Note: It is almost inconceivable how so many men have been ripped-off, exploited, discouraged, had their families destroyed, found out their "guru" is gay, or on drugs, or having sex with his disciples, ad nauseum, and still remain unable to recognize Asvatthama for what he is. And, astoundingly, it only requires "average intelligence" in order to see this imposition for what it is! Time to break the spell. "There is a Sanskrit proverb; sati shatvam samacharit, and this means that if somebody's cunning, we must also become cunning. To a cunning person we must not be a simpleton. Krishna conscious devotees are expected to be very intelligent, so we have to work very intelligently to prove our advancement in Krsna consciousness." (Hamsadutta, 6/8/69) Note: The simple-minded and honest devotees have had a hard tune comprehending how these supposedly advanced men became so enwrapped in plotting and scheming to exploit Srila Prabhupada's legacy and disciples. Now we must follow Prabhupada's instructions and be cunning ourselves if we are to survive, save, and push on Prabhupada's mission. We must try and always remember that they, the "GBC," are thinking that the Krsna consciousness movement should be "run Machiavellian." For the information of our respected readers, Machiavelli was an Italian political thinker during the time of the Renaissance. He wrote one (in)famous book called The Prince. This book contains political methodologies comparable to Chanakya's artha sastra, only exactly the opposite. It employs evil techniques for evil ends. The subtitle of this book goes, "The Man Whose Name Has Become Synonymous with Evil." Tamala Krsna used to distribute this book amongst "the leading secretaries" and insisted they study it. Bhagavan especially was keen on it. Interestingly, ISKCON Italy has purchased Machiavelli's castle in Florence for their center. We would not be at all surprised to find out Bhagavan is the reincarnation of Machiavelli. "Regarding the matter with Purusottama dasa. You immediately go and take back whatever books of ours that he has in his possession. You may inform him that we do not require his editing, neither should he correspond with our men in Los Angeles. He is a very heinous man. He wants to become more important. Who sent him books from Los Angeles without asking me? Who has given him the books he now has? You take them back immediately. If this man comes to see me in Vrindavana, I do not wish to see him." (11/7/75) Note: "He wants to become more important." Earlier on Prabhupada said "Has the GBC now become better than Guru Maharaja?" As such, these same words, "a heinous man," can be applied to anyone who claims they are beyond the injunctions in Prabhupada's books, as ISKCON's "gurus" claim. "We find from the history of Mahabharata that the battle of Kurukshetra was because of the belligerent attitude of Duryodhana. So such war as it was conducted under the advice of Lord Krishna is not bad, but war declared and executed by demonic politicians is certainly very bad. A Krsna conscious person like Arjuna is not inclined to the activities of warfare, but when there is a necessity for peace in the world to educate men to become Krsna conscious, a Krsna conscious person does not lag behind." (Bibhavati, 6/12/69) Note: Naturally, most of the devotees in ISKCON are not inclined, for one reason or another, to the activities of warfare. But if we want to call ourselves disciples of Srila Prabhupada, we must not "lag behind." We must fight for what is right, or we should "decide to die rather than not execute Prabhupada's mission properly." (SB, 4.28.48) "According to Vedic injunctions, there are six kinds of aggressors: (1) A poison giver, (2) One who sets fire to the house, (3) One who attacks with deadly weapons, (4) One who plunders riches, (5) One who occupies another's land, and (6) One who kidnaps a wife. Such aggressors are at once to be killed, and no sin is incurred by killing such aggressors. Such killing of aggressors is quite befitting for any ordinary man, but Arjuna was not an ordinary person. He was saintly by character, and therefore he wanted to deal with them in saintliness. This kind of saintliness, however, is not for a ksatriya. Although a responsible man in the administration of a state is required to be saintly, he should not be cowardly. (BG, 1.36) Note: Many devotees within "ISKCON" have been attacked with deadly weapons. Indeed, Chakraddhari was murdered at New Vmdavana by Daruka and Tirtha with the help and inspiration of the Temple treasurer, Dulal Chandra. This incident is well-known to all at New Vmdavana, so much so that Kuladri was having to make frequent announcements to the devotees during Prasadam: "If the police come and ask any questions regarding Chakraddhari, you don't know anything." We personally heard this said. And, of course, many devotees have had their wives stolen from them by ISKCON's sexyasis. This also merits the death penalty. There are literally thousands of examples of these aggressions that it is not possible to do justice in relation to any of them in this document. Eventually, however, they will all be heard and the guilty parties punished, either by us, or by Yamaraja. |
Replies
![]() Anonymous |
#8287 Re:2015-05-19 13:27:03 |
![]() Anonymous |
#8288 Re:2015-05-19 13:29:09 |
Petition ad
Promote here
PETITION OPPOSING ARROWHEAD AIRPARK IN CASS COUNTY MISSOURI
WE, THE UNDERSIGNED, HEREBY PETITION the County Commissioners of Cass County, Missouri as follows: WE STATE AND BELIEVE: Arrowhead Airpark, LLC filed applications with Cass County to build an airport and residential complex at E. 203rd St. and S. Prospect Ave. in South Belton Missouri. The Arrowhead Airpark applications propose: A 3,000-foot paved and lighted runway 95 airplane hangars (52 with homes and 43 with apartments) on only 159 acres This project would create urban-level density in a r...
Petition ad
Promote here
Keep the Saturday evening jazz concerts at the Roxbury Library
We the undersigned have been audience members at the Makanda Project concerts at the Roxbury Branch Library. Some of us started attending the concerts as far back as 2008, when they began; some of us have discovered them more recently. We all appreciate the great uniqueness of having music of such high quality available for free in such a welcoming community setting. We understand that in order to continue receiving funding from the Fellowes Athanaeum Trust Fund, the Makanda Project has been ask...
Petition ad
Promote here
Relocate The Shed
Neighborhood impact studies are conducted before a project can begin. The Department of Public Works never conducted one. We need for the Public Works Department to remove the food shed to their facilities, until a neighborhood impact assessment has been completed ...
Petition ad
Promote here
📜 PETITION TO THE PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE ON THE HEALTH CARE COMPLAINTS COMMISSION (HCCC)
Regarding Misconduct, Jurisdictional Overreach, and Breaches of the Law in the Case of Dr My Le Trinh This petition supports a formal submission already made to the NSW Parliamentary Committee on the Health Care Complaints Commission under section 65 of the Health Care Complaints Act 1993 (NSW). It raises systemic concerns about regulatory misconduct and calls for urgent oversight. All facts referred to are drawn from publicly available documents and proceedings. To: The Committee on the Health...
Petition ad
Promote here
Oppose Islamophobia Definition
We the undersigned oppose any government definition of so-called ‘Islamophobia’. We assert our freedom to expose and oppose the errors and violence of the Islamic religion and to bring the truth of the Gospel to Muslims. We deplore the inherent bias of the Government ‘Working Party on Anti-Muslim Hatred / Islamophobia’ in which every member is either a Muslim activist or, in the case of its chairman, Dominic Grieve KC, an apologist for Islam. We are dismayed that the sole focus of the ‘Working...
Petition ad
Promote here
Take Brian Kilmeade off the air!
To Rupert Murdoch, Lachlan Murdoch, and all other shareholders and executives of Fox Corporation: On Wednesday, September 10, 2025, Brian Kilmeade casually suggested on "Fox and Friends" that we kill mentally ill/homeless people without benefit of trial, via involuntary lethal injection. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9mq3oKI2KhY This is reprehensible, it is dangerous, and it is sick. As a network, Fox News is known for presenting content that is, to put it mildly, controversial. But t...
Petition ad
Promote here
Bend to the Beach Road Initiative
IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ AND SIGN THE PETIION IF YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT AND IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY A TOLL. OUR GOAL IS TO GET 500 SIGNATURES BY AUGUST 1ST. THANK YOU. There was another head-on collision a few weeks ago on the 85 between Gilo Bend and Ajo. This is happening too often and there have been many fatalities over the years. People speed in a hurry to get to Rocky Point or to make the border in time. As well, there are often very slow vehicles causing a back up and...
Petition ad
Promote here
Proclamation for a Restored Republic
My fellow citizens, (Read or listen to the video on Substack - https://open.substack.com/pub/anonymous8675309/p/nows-the-time-no-more-excuses?r=5c59m0&utm_medium=ios We stand today at a critical juncture in history—one where the essence of liberty, the integrity of our nation, and the preservation of our rights as free individuals are at stake. This proclamation is not merely a declaration; it is a profound affirmation of who we are as a people, of the principles that have guided our natio...
Petition ad
Promote here
STOP THE MINE IN NUNASVAARA
[ENG (Svenska nedan)] My name is @tievaki and I have started this petition to support @framtid_utan_gruva_nunasvaara which is a group of residents from Vittangi, politicians, Sami villages, and national associations who are working to unite opposition to the planned graphite mine in Nunasvaara between the Torne and Vittangi rivers, 10 km north of Vittangi. I am a Tornedalian myself, and I know how fragile our nature is in the Arctic, so I am ordering the government not to do this. @framtid_...
Petition ad
Promote here
Petition Against the Installation of a Biodigester at Wilson Rd, Fairfield Township, Madison County, Ohio
Petition Against the Installation of a Biodigester at Wilson Rd, Fairfield Township, Madison County, We, the undersigned, residents and concerned citizens of Fairfield Township and Madison County, Ohio, respectfully submit this petition to oppose the installation of a biodigester facility at Wilson Rd. While we recognize the value of renewable energy, the proposed location raises serious concerns about environmental impact, public safety, and local infrastructure. These concerns include air a...
Petition ad
Promote here
Hardworking People Against AB 928
Assembly Bill 928 is a reckless, poorly written legislative proposal. Whether it's for breeding, showing, rescuing, or keeping roosters for personal, cultural, or spiritual reasons, this bill undermines our way of life. It affects thousands across the state who cherish and maintain these animals as an integral part of our lives. Assembly Bill 928, under the guise of regulating cockfighting, does not distinguish between illegal activities and responsible rooster ownership. Legitimate breeders an...
Petition ad
Promote here
Add petition "Суд над Бхагавад-гитой / Attempt to ban Bhagavad-gita" to this listThe adoption and ratification of a new calendar for the United Global Trade Organization
To whom it may concern, I hope this article finds you well. **The Case for a New Calendar System Based on a Deck of Cards** The current Gregorian calendar, though widely accepted and functional, has long been criticized for its irregularities and inconsistencies. Months vary in length from 28 to 31 days, making planning and scheduling less intuitive. Adopting a new calendar system with "twelve plus one" months of 28 days each, and an additional "transition day" at the end of the year—would br...
Is there something you want to change?
Change doesn't happen by staying silent. The author of this petition stood up and took action. Will you do the same? Start a social movement by creating a petition.
Start a petition of your ownOther petitions you might be interested in
Proposed REGO price increase for motorcycles
2479 Created: 2024-10-03
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 2479 |
12 months | 2479 |
"Cap Rates for South Wairarapa: Cap 2025/26 Rate Increase at 3%"
565 Created: 2024-10-16
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 565 |
12 months | 564 |
Support community safety. Reopen Clive Police Station.
281 Created: 2024-10-21
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 281 |
12 months | 281 |
Say Yes to Auckland Arena — A home for sport, culture & community.
246 Created: 2025-04-11
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 246 |
12 months | 246 |
Justice For Cwecwe
1173770 Created: 2025-03-27
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 1173770 |
12 months | 1173725 |
Ban Double Tap Poisoning in Mahia and Demand Safer Bait Execution
116 Created: 2024-12-26
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 116 |
12 months | 115 |
Cap rates increase for Taupo and Districts
87 Created: 2025-05-07
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 87 |
12 months | 87 |
Safer speed Hatfields Beach
86 Created: 2025-05-15
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 86 |
12 months | 86 |
Safer Road Speeds for Martinborough
72 Created: 2025-03-24
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 72 |
12 months | 72 |
Petition to stop the erection of new 5G transmitters in Devonport
129 Created: 2024-08-12
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 129 |
12 months | 57 |
Bring back the eels: Stop habitat destruction in NZ.
45 Created: 2025-05-29
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 45 |
12 months | 45 |
Petition to Remove Excise Tax on Premium Cigars in New Zealand
33 Created: 2025-05-07
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 33 |
12 months | 33 |
Adjusted Marking and Consistency for future NCEA exams
30 Created: 2024-11-06
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 30 |
12 months | 30 |
Please sign the petition to halt rates increases by the New Plymouth Dustrict Council which are forcing people out of their homes and off of their properties. The NPDC is incompetent.
24 Created: 2024-11-21
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 24 |
12 months | 24 |
SAVE Segar House - 50 years of mental health support proposed to CLOSE
24 Created: 2025-05-23
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 24 |
12 months | 24 |
Justice For Cwecwe
33305 Created: 2025-03-28
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 33305 |
12 months | 33304 |
People of New Zealand opposed to WHO Pandemic Treaty 28/05/22
983 Created: 2022-05-20
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 983 |
12 months | 14 |
Request for Postponement of Aerial Herbicide Spraying near Huanui College
14 Created: 2024-10-22
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 14 |
12 months | 14 |
Parakai and Helensville Community Member
12 Created: 2025-06-12
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 12 |
12 months | 12 |
"Protect New Zealand's Water — Stop Mass Chemical Exposure"
11 Created: 2025-04-28
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 11 |
12 months | 11 |
Petitions.nz
We provide free hosting for online petitions. Create a professional online petition
by using our powerful service. Our petitions are mentioned in the media every day, so creating a petition is a great way to get noticed by the
public and the decision makers.